DISQUS

preacherman · 1 year ago

Wonderful review.
Thank you for sharing this with us all.
I can't wait to read this book.
Thank you for inspiring us and challenging us to stretch our hearts and minds by reading various topics.
I want you to know that I really enjoy reading this blog.
Keep up the great work.

Gordon · 1 year ago

I am surprised at the lack of comments on this article/posting. Is this now a non-issue in the SDA church?

Steve Parker · 1 year ago

Hi Gordon

Yes... it is a bit of a surprise! It's possible that people haven't had a chance to read the book yet. If my review encourages them to do so, I will be happy.

Steve

Van Glorious · 1 year ago

The 1888 message was the true "Righteousness by Faith". The rejection of it lead to the confusion and Legalism..finally resulting in the counterfeit message of Des Ford

To constantly point to him as the one who preached the "Gospel" to the Adventist Church is a lie

Des Ford's Gospel is the Evangelical version, not the true version as preached by Jones, Waggoner and EGW.

Mike · 1 year ago

Steve Parker's original above: "At times, we tend to lose sight of Ford has Hook provides detailed discussions of theology and SDA church history."

I think it should read "as" instead of "has."

Regarding "van glorious" comments I would like to remind him that Ellen White writes that justification by faith is the 3rd angel's message in verity. Ellen White also supported that the law in Galatians was not only the ceremonial law but the moral law as well.

We find both the justification and santification statements in EGW.

Desmond Ford not only preaches the gospel but he lives it, and that is no lie!

Blessings,
Mike MacLennan

Steve Parker · 1 year ago

Thanks for the correction, Mike. I have fixed it.

Steve

Van Glorious · 7 months ago

Mike, yeah I agree Ellen White said that Justification by Faith is the 3rd Angels Message in Verity...the version as understood in 1888,which points out, contrary to Ford, that Justification is a life changing event, not some legal declaration with no effect on earth.

Ford's message is essentially Legalism. Adventists are repairers of the breach between Law and Grace. Ford perpetuates this breach. Justification and Sanctification are not meant to be fractured.

Ford's Theology is Catholicism dressed as Reformationist

Van Glorious · 7 months ago

I have to add, that it's insulting to hear people say that Ford "brought the gospel to the Adventist Church"....and Ford never rebukes people for it, showing himself to be deluded..wake up to yourselves!

Steve Parker · 6 months ago

Hi Van Glorious

I must say your comment that

'Ford's message is essentially Legalism. Adventists are repairers of the breach between Law and Grace. Ford perpetuates this breach. Justification and Sanctification are not meant to be fractured.'

does mystify me a bit for a number of reasons:

1. Ford has constantly stated in public and his writings that legalism is earning salvation by keeping the law. He has also stated that obedience is essential but that it is a fruit of salvation rather than the root of salvation. It is just incorrect to construe Ford as a legalist.

2. I have personally heard Ford and read in his writings that justification are distinct but should never be separated. It is hard to see how that could be seen as a fracturing of the two.

3. Ford sees the gospel as a life changing event. He repeatedly states that justification is the basis of salvation and that obedience is a response of love to justification. It is obvious that Ford believes in repentance and obedience as a response to the grace God has demonstrated in Christ. To suggest that Ford doesn't believe in a life changing gospel seems to ignore just about everything he has written.

There is no doubt that Ford, like the rest of us, is flawed (he'd be the first to admit that) and doesn't have a perfect grasp of truth (who does?). But if one is to criticise him, it would be advisable to represent him correctly.